SNIPS AND SNIPES: PAST TWO WEEKS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE FOR FILIPINO BOXING
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Author: ERIC ARMIT
Date: 11/23/2009

     As is usual with the boxing business, there is little time for reflection on the magnificent victory for Manny Pacquiao over Miguel Cotto. Already the talk is about the next big fight for Manny-Floyd Mayweather Jr. It has to happen and, this time Floyd will not have all of the cards. Manny now brings a great deal more to the table and will be in a very strong bargaining position, and it will be a fight that Floyd needs more than Manny.  The only viable alternative for either of them would be a fight with the winner of the January fight between Shane Mosley and Andre Berto, but both prestige-wise and financially it would not be as attractive a proposition.

      The Pacquiao vs Cotto fight and a Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight are big attractions with or without a “title” and, with the “Super Six” tournament, it puts the importance of the various sanctioning bodies in their proper context. It is about the quality of the fight and not what bauble is at stake that counts. Someone estimated that from the TV revenue, gate receipts and other business generated by the Pacquiao-Cotto fight could reach $150 million and that Cotto's cut could be as much as $10 million with Manny earning a lot more than that. HBO reported 1,250,000 buys giving revenue from that alone of $70 million. Pacquiao vs. Mayweather would easily surpass those figure with en estimate of each man receiving somewhere around $25-$30 million. The difficulty will be in getting Golden Boy promotions to sit down with Bob Arum and HBO and accept that Floyd has to settle for 50-50 at best. Pacquiao wants it, Bob Arum wants it, HBO wants it-Floyd is the only guy who can stop it from happening. Talks are said to be underway. Boxing is still very big business.

      Cotto has said he will continue to fight until September next year, when he will be 30, and that the fight he wants most is a return with Antonio Margarito.

      Here's a boxing trivia question for the future. What do Rustico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat have in common? They are the only fighters to have beaten Manny inside the distance, and both did by third round kayo.  Torrecampo beat light flyweight  Manny in 1996 and Medgoen beat a weight weakened Manny in 1999 to take his WBC flyweight title. Strangely Torrecampo only won two of his next seven fights and retired Medgoen is still active.

      And another bit of trivia. What do Manny and Floyd have in common? Manny weighed 106lbs when he had his first pro fight in 1995, and Floyd weighed 106lbs when he won his first major title as an amateur, the National Golden Gloves in 1993. They have both come a long way since then.

      The problem with so many sanctioning bodies around is that it confuses everything. Manny is said to have won “world” titles in seven different divisions, but I am not sure how they arrive at that figure. For the major sanctioning bodies he won the WBC flyweight, IBF super bantamweight, WBC  super featherweight, WBC lightweight and WBO welterweight. The other division in which he won a title was light welterweight where he won the IBO title. He never competed for a title at super fly or bantam and the nearest he came at featherweight was his draw with Juan Manuel Marquez, when Marquez's IBF title was on the line. I can't make it seven different divisions. Also, how do you define a “world” title ?. If you stick to the four major bodies, then Manny was not a champion at light welterweight. However if you start to count the IBO then there is no reason not to count the WBF (either Foundation or Federation), IBA, IBC, UBC, GBU, WBU etc. etc. etc. The big difference is that when winning the IBO title Manny kayoed Ricky Hatton, who was probably the best at the weight at the time. You could argue that none of them are “world” champions, or that all of them are “world” champions. That's the disease that afflicts boxing today.

      What a very mixed time for Filipinos over the past two weeks. It started on November 13 with Z Gorres winning his fight but needing surgery to save his life. On the same show prospect Mark Milligan was beaten. On November 14 the pendulum swung way up again as Manny halted Miguel and young Eden Sonsona won his fight. The pendulum dipped again on November 20 when Marvin Sonsona failed to make the weight for his WBO super-flyweight title defence and lost his title and Sonny Boy Jaro was destroyed in one round in a challenge for the WBA light flyweight title, then up again on the same night as Rodel Mayol halted Edgar Sosa to win the WBC light-flyweight title. Some roller coaster ride.

      A Mixed time for Filipinos, but there is no doubt that it has been a terrible couple of weeks for boxing. As I have said, Gorres almost lost his life on November 13. he survived and is recovering. Mexican Francisco Rodriguez was not so fortunate. He was hospitalised after being halted by Teon Kennedy on November 20, and died two days later. On November 21 in Tuxtla Gutierrez, Mexico, Giovanni Diaz was rushed to hospital for surgery after being kayoed by Ramon Ayala and is still in a critical condition. A terrible time for the sport, but that is nothing to the agony that the families of these fighters are suffering.

      Suddenly titles are not that important. There has been a spate of fighters giving up their “world” titles recently. Chad Dawson gave up the IBF light heavyweight title, and then won the WBC interim title. Tomasz Adamek relinquished the IBF cruiserweight title and is now clamouring to be in the line for a shot at David Haye. Zsolt Erdei gave up the WBO light heavyweight title to move up to cruiserweight to win the WBC title, Arthur Abraham gave up the IBF middleweight title to compete in the Super Six, Joshua Clottey gave up the IBF welterweight title to fight Miguel Cotto, WBA super flyweight champion Nobou Nashiro gave up his title because it appears that the WBC promised to make him No 1 in their ratings if he did so. You have to feel sorry for the former IBF flyweight champion Nonito Donaire. Nonito gave up his title to go to super flyweight and disappeared! He is not rated in the top 15 in any division by any of the sanctioning bodies. Up, up and away Nonito!

      One of  many things that puzzle me is that if Ruslan Chagaev is rated No1 by the WBA and John Ruiz is No 2, then how can Ruiz be the mandatory challenger?  How can Kali Meehan be lined up for a WBA eliminator when he has not fought since August 2008. How can Lamon Brewster be WBA No 9 when in September he was beaten by Nigerian Gbenga Oloukun, who has now lost two fights in a row? How can John Duddy be No 9 middleweight with the WBO, and Billy Lyell, who beat him in April, not be in the top 15? And Amir Khan had better watch out as the WBA rated Dmitri Salita above Manny Pacquiao! So many questions.

      Undefeated European Union super featherweight champion Devis Boschiero is in deep trouble. The 28-year-old unbeaten (25 wins) has been arrested by Italian police on charges related to alledged possession of cocaine.

      Mexico lost one of its most successful promoters with the death in Mexicali at the age of 84 of Nocolas Rodriguez. Amongst the boxers Nicolas promoted were Ruben Olivares, Jose Napoles, Vicent Saldivar, Jose Medel, Efren Torres, Ricardo Arredondo, Jesus Pimentel, Chucho Castillo, Gerardo Ferrat, Raul Soriano, Jose Luis Castillo and many others. He was voted “Promoter of the Century” by the Mexicali Commission.

      Good show in Ciudad Obregon, Mexico on December 19 sees Alex Valdez fighting Filipino Mike Domingo for the interim WBA super flyweight title( there is nothing wrong with the champion Neohmar Ceremo, it is just another excuse for a sanctioning fee) and Humberto Soto, the WBS super featherweight champion, fighting former WBC super-featherweight champion Jesus “Matador” Chavez at lightweight.

      Daughters of the fathers. They start them young in Mexico. A recent show featured Yareli Larios, the daughter of former double WBC champion Oscar Larios, in an amateur bout. Yareli is eleven years old and it appears she has been going to the gym with Dad since she was eight.

      Sons of the fathers. At the weekend Carlos Zarate Jr, son of the WBC champion, and Alionso Lopez, son of the great Ricardo Lopez, both continued unbeaten as pros with kayo wins. Best of luck to them

      Talk in Namibia has WBA secondary lightweight champion Paulus Moses defending his title early in the New Year against Marco Antonio Barrera. After the way the WBA screwed Paulus, he deserves a good payday, but as far as I know nothing is set for this one.



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Name: paclander Date: 11/24/2009
many times a writers have already discredit paquiao achievements my question is " AS A BOXING WRITER YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LIFTING THE MORALE OF BOXING COMMUNITY IN TRYING TO DISCREDIT PAQUIAO'S ACHIEVEMENTS AND QUESTIONING THE BOXING SANCTIONING BODIES IS IT REALLY BENEFICIAL IN BOXING COMMUNITY?" where almost everyone now saying 7 title in 7 div. of paquiao making the boxing world alive again and restoring it's past mistakes like what you are doing now instead of questioning, attacking, degrading this sport why not just be thankful to the grace of one's great had offered. If you've nothing good to offer in this sport choose another path and there please no more discontentment it will pull you down

Name: PacGreatestEver Date: 11/24/2009
bro, about the 7 world titles, here is an explanation. You pointed out about the 5 world titles in the major ABC sanctioning bodies but dont forget about the RING magazine or should I say the lineal world championship(the man who beats the man) which Pac won against Barrera at 126 pounds(featherweight) and against Hatton at 140 pounds(junior welterweight) along with that minor IBO one which is not included in the count. The RING mag world title is now considered as a major championship along with the 4 major sanctioning bodies(Just check out wikipedia or even the biggest media outlets like CNN and BBC which regard pacman as a 7-time world champion in as many weight class).Now count again and you have 7 legit world titles at 7 weight divisions. And dont forget 4 of those 7 are lineal championships on flyweight,featherweight,lightweight and junior welterweight. Just to conclude it Manny has won WBC flyweight(112lbs *lineal champ),IBF super bantamweight(122lbs),RING featherweight(126lbs *lineal champion),WBC and RING super featherweight(130lbs *lineal champion),WBC lightweight,RING junior welterweight(140lbs *lineal champion)and WBO welterweight. Again these 7 world titles at 7 weight classes are not only considered by writers but the majority of the public which includes the biggest news outlets even HBO. The only one I heard of discrediting these facts are the British Broadcasters of Sky Sports during the fight which obviously shows that Sky Sports is trying to appeal to Mayweather and discredit Pacquiao.

Name: Anonymous Date: 11/24/2009
Just type in septuple champion on any search engine and there you can find the wikipedia fact about the one and only 7-weight division champion(major championships) which is Manny Pacman Pacquiao. And about the HBO,CNN,BBC,TIME,ESPN and other major news outlets that considers Pac as a 7-weight division champion, just type them in on any search engine or just go to their websites and for sure you can confirm that Pac is regarded as the one and only 7-time 7-division world champ. Only the haters disregard those facts or the Mayweather puppets in SkySport's case.

Name: junolivo Date: 11/24/2009
No wonder, your name must be changed to Eric Armpit

Name: waingro Date: 11/24/2009
when pacquiao fought marco antonio barrera at featherweight on 11/15/2003 and ricky hatton at jr. welterweight on 05/02/2009, the latter two were ring magazine champions. as you know, ring magazine only recognizes the LINEAL CHAMPION "the man who beat the man" in each weight division (which makes it more reputable than the other 4 namely: WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO) inasmuch as it does not charge sanctioning fees and is called the bible of boxing. if you check "LIST OF CURRENT WORLD BOXING CHAMPIONS" on wikipedia, and scroll down, you will notice that 11 out of 18 divisions under RING are vacant for the reason that their criteria is more rigid than the other 4 widely recognized organizations.

may i suggest you read the well researched article by Mr. Cliff Rold dated 4/15/2009 entitled “Pacquiao Aims for Four (and Six): Real History Part VI”. and as you know pacquiao won over hatton and cotto. i hope this helps. peace.


Name: isidro Date: 11/24/2009
7 /7 questioning move on
agree don't be a ..... winner Pacquiao

Name: Smoke Date: 11/24/2009
Wikipedia is a joke as far as being factual and credible. Ring Magazine is owned by Golden Boy Promotions so throw it out as factual. Many writers are unprofessional and do favors for particular promoters and have their hands out all the time.

Believing the four major sanctioning bodies are credible is the saddest commentary here. They are what is killing the sport.

Believe what you want, but the author brings up irrefutable facts here.

Name: BOIEMACHO Date: 11/24/2009
This writer gave the readers a lot of question instead of giving us answers and information.

Name: Edgar A de Dios Date: 11/24/2009
Please. let us give credit where credit is due. Remember that today's boxing bouts especially at the elite levels are very difficult to win, and most bouts are very competitive. Today's fighters for these bouts train two to three months in a very strenuous program of training. Hence, boxers of today turnout to be very skillful generally than boxers of old. There were very few technical boxers of those era, hence it was not very hard for the very few hardworking elite fighters then to dominate their own division and for a very few to even rise up and still dominate a division or two. To accomplish what Pacquiao had accomplished in this modern era where the most records are broken in the world sports stage be it in the olympics or any world championships, is just mind boggling. You could just imagine how amazing it is to win seven world championship titles in seven weight divisions of boxing, not counting the three or four divisions that he had skipped. It's simply awesome and really incredible. Mind you, it may take a century or even a thousand years for this record to be broken. Therefore for many boxing fans around the world Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao is simply the GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME, of course without bias to any other race in this world..

Name: BOIEMACHO Date: 11/24/2009
The author as well as this site “BOXEOMUNDIAL .COM” is anti Filipino or they hate Filipinos. There are plenty of Filipino champions not even counting Pacman the #1P4P king and the best-known fighters in the world, is the only flag that they do not include on there site window.

Name: Anonymous Date: 11/24/2009
stupid writer who doesnt know what he is talking about... pls stop talking coz u got no shit about boxing... lousy dickhead

Name: PacGreatestEver Date: 11/24/2009
I rest my case Pac is a 7-time 7-weight division world champ and that's the bottomline. The biggest sports,entertainment and news networks worldwide consider him as that so definitely these very few articles or comments discrediting Pacquiao's 7 titles are just plain Pac haters whose eyes are still not open to accept the fact that Pac is the greatest and most exciting fighter of this generation.

Name: Bob Date: 11/24/2009
you have a comprehensive knowledge about boxing's fast and present. but pac got 7 world titles and that's fine.

Name: pacman09 Date: 11/25/2009
Do more research and try to be very objective in writing...don't discredit someone's accomplishments and be thankful that you are in the age of boxing renaissance or else you won't have anything to write...don't destroy something that is your livelihood...

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